If any Lib Dem out there wants to delude themself that this is not that bad then I suggest they have a look at the BBC "Have your say".
When the Tory party was in it's blackest days those in the party were always trying to put positive spins on what was happening. We also always thought it was good that at least the public was listening to us and the press keeping us in the public eye. In fact, of course, it was an utter disaster and we appeared divided and a mess. The trouble for the Lib Dems is throughout the past 13 years of Tory turmoil it was neve as bad as this - a public slaughtering by a party built on trust.
Still, they will come to learn.
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